[basisword]

>> Being entirely against age verification is not a good stance I think

I think the problem is that the internet has existed for quite a while without it. I'm sure there were similar complaints from people when you suddenly needed to pass a test to drive a car or when insurance became mandatory.

>> There are systems that preserve privacy while still making it possible to verify you're old enough to use a service.

What are these systems?

[bengale]

There are some funny videos of people in pubs in the UK discussing how bad the incoming drink drive rules were, it's a similar deal I think. No one likes being restricted from something they've been allowed to do.

[fhennig]

> What are these systems?

We could have a system where I authenticate myself against a government service only, or also licensed third party providers, they then provide me with signed proof-of-age certificates that can also be single use, and then I use them to proof my age with a particular service.