[isalmon]

Here's my story. I had H-1b for more than 3 years. I know for sure that I was taking someone's job - there's no doubt about that. When I finally got my green card - I quit the next day to start my own company. Now I create jobs.

So it took me 3 years until I could start creating jobs in the US. In my opinion US government should provide incentives for the foreigners to CREATE jobs, not TAKE them. Right now it's exactly the opposite.

This OP's point is I think the most important part of this blog post: "And allow them to graduate into new visa's (like a greencard) once certain milestones have been hit like revenue thresholds (tax paid) and employment (aggregate demand in the economy increases)."

[thinkisgood]

The US does offer a program like this, which the author referred to, and is the EB-5 program. It requires you to invest $1MM in the US and create 10 jobs ($500k and 10 jobs in economic development zones). You can go from a visa to a green card within 3-4 years after proving your investment and the creating of 10 jobs.

[eshvk]

I just read up on this. It works if you have that much capital at the start but what if you don't? What is the alternative for say people, who are fresh out of school and have a bunch of ideas and might in 3-4 years time create value and jobs worth that number or even twice it.

[thinkisgood]

Anyone can say they have an idea that will create 1,000 jobs in 3-4 years. How do you pick the ones that actually will?

[isalmon]

That's exactly my point. Give everybody a visa, but reward them with GC only when they build a successful business. If they can't - they go home when the visa expires.

[refurb]

But that's one of the big problems. USCIS has almost no ability to "send people home" when their visa expires. The fact is, if you enter the US (legally or not, it's pretty much impossible to make you leave).

That's why you see tourist visas denied for people who are coming from developed countries and are visiting relatives. The immigration official knows that one he lets you in, he has to count on the person's goodwill that they'll leave.

[eshvk]

Can you explain a bit more on why it is hard to deport people? The way I understood it the way illegal immigrants live in the country is because they either use fake SSNs or no SSNs, no paper trails of any kind. I would imagine that it would be very hard to live like that unless you are truly desperate.

[eshvk]

It would be great to be able to identify the features necessary for successful entrepreneurship. However, defining "tenacity" and "scrappiness" (and other latent variables) in a binary fashion acceptable to a bureaucrat are difficult. In its absence, use something like the YC approach (interview by experts) to determine the success of an idea? If 1 out of every 100 people succeed, you have 1000 jobs for U.S. citizens.

[hasenj]

The problem here is the $1MM has to be your to begin with.

What if instead you can get people to invest that amount into your startup and then use that investment to create jobs?

[HistoryInAction]

Great story. Want to tell it on www.immigrantexodus.com? We're using it as a platform to seed press to influence the DC debate and advance startup visa.

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