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by dzhiurgis 43 days ago
Bingo. Literally abandonded in Lithuania, air to air is so much cheaper. Some builders even ditch hp altogheter - basic electric underfloor heating + solar panels is so much cheaper.

I'm in New Zealand and my bedroom heater is $20 electric + $20 smart plug + $10 temperature sensor. Winter bill is ~$100 NZD. It would take ~20 years for heat pump to recover install cost alone.
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pjc50 43 days ago
I find that surprising - I'm only slightly north of Lithuania, and the seasonality of solar panels makes them pretty ineffective in the winter, and especially in the pre-dawn when you want to bring the house back up to temperature.

(when I had the instrumentation hooked up for a year: https://flatline.org.uk/daystats.html )

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dzhiurgis 43 days ago
You can sell power to grid and get it back at a reasonable spread. Although I'm sure that's not going to be so lucrative in future.
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fennecfoxy 43 days ago
As a Kiwi (now in UK) NZ doesn't get that cold for that long...mostly just wet, unless you're pretty far south.

In UK/other parts of Europe winter gets colder, lasts much longer, humid the entire time (so heat just escapes all over the place). Plus, the buildings here are a lot older - I think upgrading insulation would make a huge difference this side of the world.

I couldn't even imagine Canada. Almost moved there...decided to stay here. No -20c winters for me ty very much.

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