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by GenerWork 43 days ago
It's one thing to make a bunch of stinkers, but then to pretend that said stinkers were in a completely alternate timeline through some sleight of hand retconning is absolutely bonkers and will fool approximately zero people.

Let's hope that this is just what it claims to be: a rumor.

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I'm not sure what you mean by "fool". These aren't real events, there's no such thing as an indisputable timeline outside of the context of an individual work. If Disney wants to make Star Wars movies set in a world where the sequel trilogy didn't happen, what's wrong with that, other than it potentially being confusing to viewers?
Indeed, a story is whatever the viewer wants it to be, because it's fiction. Disney marketing and time are effective brain-o. Nobody will care in a couple decades, other than the niche watchers of the "real story behind Star Wars Disney".
I think the success of Marvel vs DC is one indicator that people do care about a more consistent world and story and are less interested in re-introducing the exact same characters over and over again in their own mini series of movies constantly retelling the same origin stories in different flavors.
At least a quarter of the population applies this to non-fiction as well.
The article says that Disney wants to move the current sequels to a brand new timeline which implies that this new timeline is an official timeline in the sense that it's blessed by Disney, but it's not the timeline that most people would consider to be the official timeline, aka the timeline where the original and sequel trilogies happened. It's basically Disney going "Well, we can't ditch this, but it kinda sorta happened, but not in the timeline you think it did. Surprise!".

Meanwhile, anybody with 2 brain cells to rub together is going to look back at how Disney marketed this originally and think "Whatever you say, my guy".

This is like resoving a plot with "it was all just a dream".

Which is fine, but you only get one; and people will invest less in future stories knowing they have a higher chance of resolving cheaply.

> […] sleight of hand retconning is absolutely bonkers and will fool approximately zero people.

Same folks who shitcanned the Expanded Universe:

> On April 25, 2014, Lucasfilm rebranded most of the Expanded Universe material with the exception of The Clone Wars as Star Wars Legends and declared it non-canonical to the franchise. The company's focus would be shifted towards a restructured Star Wars canon based on new material.[60][63][64] Chee said in a 2014 Twitter post that a "primary goal" of the story group would be to replace the previous hierarchical canon (of the Holocron) with one cohesive one.[58] […]

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_in_other_media#Disne...

* https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Legends

Whatever the artistic merits, shitcanning the Expanded Universe had a colossal level of practical utility -- the enormous quantity of material surely made it extremely difficult to add new material that didn't contradict the existing EU material in some way or the other.

Plus, the actors were too old to portray the existing EU storylines for Luke/Han/Leia at that point anyway etc etc etc

For kids playing dressup and role model purposes, if they are going to reboot the sequels they should reboot Rey and Kylo. Same rough characters, new story.

Nobody struggles with multiple Joker variants running around. Batman is still Batman.

> Batman is still Batman.

No one thinks of Adam West any less for Keaton, Bale, Patterson, etc. (Though the running joke seems to be that Clooney thinks less of himself for his role. :)

The Sequel Trilogy were the original 1970's movies, which are arguably not the stinkers you are referring to.

According to the rumour they want to keep Jar-Jar but get rid of the Ewoks.

Jar Jar was the best villain that never happened.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/s/gBmt9dwZ2y

They certainly can do it. Hardcore fans understand what they're doing. Maybe some would hate it, but everyone knows that would be possible. It's sci-fi. Ghostbusters 2016 got decannonized.

For mainstream fans, the whole Star Wars franchise has been diluted with mediocre stories, I don't think they'd care. It's just another SW movie to watch.

That being said, this isn't the first time decannoizing the sequels has been brought up in a rumor. I wouldn't be surprised if this was just more wishful thinking.

Long long time ago, in the age of paper, there were these things called comic books. Superheroes had their own books, as well as spinoffs, mini-series, and guest appearances…

lol. More Star Wars is good.