[mghackerlady]

The soviet union objectively wasn't communism though, they didn't claim they were either. They had the goal of developing communism, but failed

[mmcdermott]

Even if we accept that, the millions dead and incalculable human suffering incurred by the attempts is more than reason enough to stop trying.

There was no greater cause of human suffering in the 20th century than the worldwide attempts to build communist governments.

[mghackerlady]

Those are all either massively exaggerated, coincidental, or are painful side effects of revolution

If we stopped trying to build capitalism for the same reasons we'd all still be serfs

[glacier9147]

I don't know, trying to stop communism also accounts for a lot of human suffering