[sottol]

I really like the look of the car, but from the title it sounds like a Mustang has been converted into an FSD Tesla ("teslafied" Mustang) - but Tesla suspension, Tesla interior... this smells like a Mustang body fitted onto a Tesla chassis ("mustangified" Tesla).

I suspect that this might be more of a "Mustang body kit" on a Tesla chassis and not retrofitting the Tesla tech into a Mustang chassis + body. Still cool, but maybe misleading.

[RankingMember]

Yep, that's exactly what it is. Still a cool project. For a split-second after reading the headline my brain thought they had gotten the Tesla software (with a lot of hackery) to control an ICE vehicle drive-train.

[dylan604]

For a split-second after reading the headline, I thought they were claiming FSD works.

[Leonard_of_Q]

It does work in driving the car where it is able to. Where it fails is in the 'full' part. After 10 billion miles driven on 'auto-pilot' [1] it is hard to claim it 'does not work'. Tesla would have been better off removing the 'F' from 'FSD' but that's water under the bridge.

[1] https://electrek.co/2026/05/03/tesla-fsd-10-billion-miles-no...

[Dylan16807]

If we judge it as "Self Driving", it does the Driving part pretty well, and is quite bad at the Self part. There exist no roads and no weather conditions where I'm allowed to take my eyes off the road and stop being the safety nanny.

[fouc]

I liked this article's definition of Full Self Driving (Level 4 autonomy), it is very clear - when Tesla directly takes on the legal liability for unsupervised driving.

[protocolture]

If they renamed it Featureless Sometimes Driving we might be onto something.

[dylan604]

You just said "where it fails" and then state hard to claim it not working. If you call it Full Self Driving and it doesn't fully self drive, then it doesn't work. Not really sure where the confusion is. It's not water under the bridge. It is what it is. They claimed it would be fully self driving and not some lane/speed maintenance that pretty much all car makers can do now. It was straight up explained to drive the car. Any deviation from that means it is not working and people like you willingly accepting what Musk has lied about for years trying to make the rest of us out to be the weird ones for not falling for it. I'm tired of the gaslighting.

[philipallstar]

Exactly. It's like calling an airplane system "autopilot" but pilots are still involved.

[goosejuice]

> lane/speed maintenance that pretty much all car makers can do now

What car can I buy in the US today that's as good as the latest fsd?

[Sohcahtoa82]

Literally every non-budget brand (and even some of the budget brands) offers automatic lane keeping with traffic-aware cruise control somewhere in their fleet. It might only be on their flagship vehicles, and possibly only on the top trims, but you're living in a Tesla-decorated cave if you think those are still Tesla-only features.

On a Tesla, it's not even an FSD-specific feature. Autopilot does it.

[dylan604]

So many cars come with lane assist and adaptive cruise control. You can google those terms for yourself. I don't bother with lmgtfy requests. You're a big boy/girl, and teaching you to fish it much better effort. They also don't cost an additional $10k on top of the price of the car. They are just part of the price of the car.

[omgwtfbyobbq]

The did, kind of. Instead of removing "Full", they added a disclaimer to the end.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a70420085/tesla-drops-auto...

[simondotau]

Full is a relative term. Full compared to what? Compared to a professional rally car driver? Compared to my grandmother? Compared to a properly licensed tourist in a foreign country?

From videos I see on YouTube, I’m struggling to think what is not Full compared to—at a bare minimum—the bottom 10 percent of drivers on the road.

[Dylan16807]

> From videos I see on YouTube, I’m struggling to think what is not Full compared to—at a bare minimum—the bottom 10 percent of drivers on the road.

Try sitting in the back seat or even just acting like a passenger and you'll see the difference very quickly.

[jandrese]

For me it has a very specific meaning: "Full" means "Unsupervised and without a geofence". Anything less is not Full Self Driving.

[simondotau]

If someone is legally restricted from leaving their home town, does that mean they're not able to fully self drive a car?

[parineum]

"Full" in full self-driving is a superfluous modifier. But it does is further emphasize that, what a person would consider "self-driving", it can do. Except it can't, of course.

[bluGill]

Nobody admits they're in the bottom 10%. Nobody even admits they're in the bottom 75%.

[BigTTYGothGF]

I'm bottom 75%.

[breve]

> Full compared to what?

Tesla set their own benchmark, their own goal posts, and their own timelines.

In 2016 Tesla said, "as of today, all Tesla vehicles produced in our factory – including Model 3 – will have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver.":

https://electrek.co/2024/08/24/tesla-deletes-its-blog-post-s...

https://web.archive.org/web/20240730071548/https://tesla.com...

That was, of course, a lie. Tesla has spent the last 10 years lying about the state of FSD. Tesla keeps claiming FSD will be achieved "next year".

What about 1 million robotaxis on the road by 2020: https://www.thedrive.com/news/38129/elon-musk-promised-1-mil...

More lies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autono...

But you knew all that already. Defending a decade's worth of lies is intellectually dishonest.

[simondotau]

Some advice if you want to be intellectually satiated, I would suggest disregarding any forward-looking statements by any company executives. You'll find life to be a lot less emotionally draining.

You can change the subject to the hyperbole and spin by Elon Musk, that's fine. Just be aware that's what you're doing. You're changing the subject. I do understand this cult of anti-personality, but I'm only interested in the technology (made by thousands of people whose name is not Elon) in customer hands right now and not about past promises. Right now, their FSD technology stack looks fairly impressive.

[pigeons]

Full is literally the first word in the feature.

[pengaru]

even my 95 miata drives itself on a straight flat road...

[mikestorrent]

but unlike the Tesla, the Miata is a car designed for the delight of the driver, rather than as a futuristic driving appliance / infotainment centre.

[bdangubic]

if they replaced F with S (Somewhat) all would be swell (hard to make any sales when not lying though…)

[fortran77]

I was 100% FSD today. Went to the office, ran some errands, went home. Never touched the steering wheel once. 2026 Model S Plaid.

[philipallstar]

It does look to an outside non-Tesla-owning observer, like it's getting there sometimes, but do you think it is? Or is it just plateauing?

[cebert]

Honestly, the best thing to do is go on a free test drive and evaluate for yourself. I don’t see it ever hitting 100%, but I don’t find myself needing to take over under normal conditions.

[ceejayoz]

> Never touched the steering wheel once.

Don’t you have to?

[x187463]

No, you can start FSD from stopped using a button on the screen. It drives to the destination and parks itself.

[ceejayoz]

It's been a year or two since I drove a Tesla, but in FSD mode it insisted I at least touch the steering wheel regularly.

[fortran77]

No. A camera watches you to make sure you’re paying attention.

[cebert]

I have FSD in a 2026 Model Y and it does a solid job for me.

[x187463]

I'm at 96% FSD miles since they started tracking a few months ago. It works very well. It was unreliable until about 12-18 months ago, but it's been great since v13.

[Spooky23]

It works, it just doesn’t fully drive by itself.

[bitfilped]

It'll work next year, don't worry.

[Danox]

So too bad handling cars made into one…

[fragmede]

> The team grafted three sections of the 2024 Tesla Model 3’s floor and seats into the Mustang’s body, shortening the battery case to fit without altering the car’s original dimensions. The result is a classic Mustang shell sitting on top of a Model 3 dual-motor setup