[taeric]

I didn't give any money in that hypothetical. Rather, I convinced a lot of other people to give them the loan. That is, largely, exactly what fundraising is. You convince other people to give money to someone or something.

If people are regularly doing this at my request, and it is constantly going to someone that just burns the money, how are people still taking my requests?

[coderintherye]

That's soliciting, which is regulated at least for soliciting non-accredited investors.

[taeric]

Yes. That doesn't change my question, here. You can arrange to bootstrap another company. It could go bust in a way that you are not on the hook for any money, but you should be on the hook for the things you did. That is the entirety of my point.

The hypotheticals being pushed on this thread have a foregone conclusion that the arranging party is completely free of any hit.

[Eisenstein]

The hypotheticals seem to be in line with reality though. This business model works because the people who make money are the ones who are in control of whether to do it. Liquidating a large company in bankruptcy can get a lot of the money back for the investors while leaving a smoking ruin where it used to be generating economic value.

[taeric]

Are they, though? There are certainly some cases where it has happened, but I don't think it has been established that that is the norm.

Naive searching on the term shows that they common in PE, and they do have a worse default rate at 20% over 2% otherwise. Certainly something to look at more closely. And I would be nervous being party to one. That said, 80% success is still better than what some companies are looking at otherwise.