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by bschoepke 40 days ago
To be fair, the demo track was one of the first I had it make, and I didn't put much effort into it because I thought it was especially funny with the macos "say" command vocals.

It's a garbage-in, garbage-out situation. If you give it more musical direction you will get more out of it.
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deng 40 days ago
It's not just that the track is garbage (the "say" vocals are actually the least of its problems). Even if AI would make a good track: why use AI for creating your arrangements in the first place? Why this resistance to actually getting good at something? I can understand if your livelihood depends on it and you just need to be fast, but why for stuff you do for fun?

The book I mentioned has a good suggestion when struggling with arrangements: just copy. Take a track you really like, put it into your DAW, sync the speed and replicate its structure. You'll see that in many genres, structure is often exactly the same anyway. This can be an eye opener, and once you've realized this, you'll be able to experiment with structure in ways you couldn't do before. That's the fun part.

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bschoepke 40 days ago
Well, I do that too. I actually spend most of my music hobby time with my Ableton Move. I just happen to find it very fun to play with Codex as well.
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deng 40 days ago
I agree that having an MCP Ableton can make total sense. After many years of use, I would say I know Ableton quite well, but nowadays, I regularly ask ChatGPT if certain things could be done differently/more efficiently, and it often surprises me with new ways of doing things. For instance, sometimes Ableton has gotten new features over the years I'm not aware of. It surely would be nice to have this integrated via MCP.

I think you would get much better feedback if you'd focus on these use cases: flattening the learning curve for newcomers, and new ideas for experienced users, rather than creating tracks completely by AI. Because in that case, why even go through a DAW and not use Suno directly?

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bschoepke 40 days ago
Thank you for the feedback, I'll record some more co-creating examples! And yea, it's also fun to take stuff out of Ableton and run it through Suno, to get real vocals and such.

A cool thing about this MCP is you can ask Codex Ableton questions and it will go and read the state of your current Live Set and answer based on that. You don't have to have it change anything for you if you don't want.

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