[mattclarkdotnet]

So you’re wanting to bet that we’ll get humanoid robots capable of driving a dumb car at L4 before we get cars capable of L5? When we have no humanoid robots driving cars, and many L4 cars driving around? I’ll take that!

[fragmede]

Geohot's Comma.ai body is going in that direction, so the question is how much do you want to bet?