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by throw7 42 days ago
I appreciate the link and information, but are you sure about that? I don't see or read anything about liability...

And footnote 2 on that page says:

2 DRIVE PILOT is an SAE Level 3 (conditional automated driving) system: the automated driving function takes over certain driving tasks. However, a fallback-ready user is still required. The fallback-ready user must be ready to take control of the vehicle at all times when prompted by the vehicle. Availability and use of DRIVE PILOT on freeways depends on options, compatible wireless networks, countries, states and relevant laws. Service subject to change at any time without notice. Mercedes me connect Terms of Use apply. Please refer to the Operator's Manual for additional instructions and limitations.

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Yes, I'm sure about that. Mercedes-Benz accepts legal liability for collisions when Drive Pilot is active.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a39481699/what-happens-if-...

Thanks for your reply. In good faith, I will give some kudos to mercedes for accepting some liability in specific situations. However, I do not grant them full liability which is what I originally stated.

AFAICT from a public search, this is the current 'drive pilot' legal terms:

https://www.mbusa.com/en/legal-notices/drive-pilot

Section 5: "...the individual using DRIVE PILOT Subscription Services becomes the fallback-ready user". That is not full liability. Full stop. I will not use drive pilot.

Additionally:

Section 6: This is a legal arbitration clause. It's a red flag to me as I believe this is a move by the legal system to contractually operate outside of the u.s. constitution. I realize this is more a personal opinion, but, regardless, this will always be a barrier, for me, to what some in industry call "Full Self-Driving (Supervised)".