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by obsidianbases1 39 days ago
Are you familiar with the process of extracting the caffeine in decaf?

Unfortunately it isn't without potential downsides.

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Yes, I know the four main methods of decaffeination. The haters have gone down this road with me many times. Why can't people just let me drink my decaf? It's like they can't enjoy their caffeine unless everybody does. It's weirdly pushy.
I don't think GP was criticizing you for liking decaf. Just pointing out that the decaf process may have affects on the beneficial compounds that aren't caffeine.
True. I love black coffee, decaf or not. Just thought it was worth pointing out since the thread is about health benefits
I didn't even know there were 4 methods - supposedly Swiss Water Process is the best in terms of not affecting the flavor or exposing you to exotic solvents, is one of the four superior to SWP?
My initial charitable reading -- as someone who sometimes dabbles in decaf -- is that decaffeination has the bad side effect of stripping flavors, and likely many of the other biologically active chemicals. I can see from their further posts that they were more interested in unscientific fear mongering instead.

That said, I do think there is some truth that decaf is lacking (including via supercritical CO2) and I wonder how long until we could have a product like genetically engineered coffee plants that produce everything except caffeine. I'd like that, though I can immediately see an issue with growing a plant without its natural pesticide.

> likely many of the other biologically active chemicals.

Do you reckon taking green coffee beans and roasting them til they’re brown right through has any detrimental effect on the biological compounds in the beans?

What do you mean by detrimental?
What do you mean by asking that question?

Isn’t it obvious? I mean within the same context where you wrote:

” is that decaffeination has the bad side effect of stripping flavors, and likely many of the other biologically active chemicals.”

By "All you haters that give me grief for drinking my daily cup of decaf can shut up now", you are implying that decaf has the same health benefits of real coffee. That's not proven. And if you weren't meaning to imply that, there was no point to that reply.
Supercritical CO2 extraction is pretty innocuous. Just buy good decaf from a place that doesn’t bathe their beans in toxic waste.
Right? All high quality coffee makers use a proper method so there is absolutely zero downside in decaf. Just make sure to check which method they use (all big ones state it on their website or else)
Good to know. Any recommendations where to find this?
Many coffee distribution sites (like drink trade dot com) tell you the process. I’m a fan of the Swiss water method.
There are multiple methods that James hoffman breaks down in this video iirc, if anyone is curious.

https://youtu.be/yYTSdlOdkn0?si=uAo3pipjBA91OV5V