[luckylion]

I'm not saying we shouldn't improve the skill of our team members -- that's an obvious yes. But about transforming someone from "I don't want to think" into "I like a challenge and want to figure it out" doesn't work in my experience.

> An apprenticeship model also helps if you can do 3-5 year agreements for training where you see the most benefit from the person in the last 1-2 years.

That's illegal in a lot of countries. If you have to invest with no assurance, you're taking on a lot of risk. Money is part of it, attention from other developers is the much bigger part in my experience.