[Zigurd]

The assertion that something like starship is required for a moon base is wild. Why would anyone want to have to rely on a rocket that needs multiple refueling missions before it can even start to go to the moon?

The whole starship project is the wrong way to get to the wrong goal.

[panick21_]

Do the math on how much cargo and volume a moon base requires and then get back to me. Starship is big enough for crew to live in for extend period. Trying to do that with many smaller landers will require MORE launches for the same payload to the moon.

Do the math and you will see the same, its obvious once you think about it. Even most the smaller lander need refueling.

And if you actually think its viable to do Apollo style where we put everything on a single stack and land on the moon like that and build a base that way, you need to get your head examined.