[cduzz]

I've been quite happy with my "first generation" tesla with the mobileye system. It has only tried to kill me a couple times in 6 years of driving it; it is not terribly smart but within the system's limits it is very stable. I certainly don't trust it to drive unattended, but it does offload 5-30% of the toil of driving on highways, which is pretty nice. Offloading 50-80% but constantly wondering "is it going to try to kill me?" I don't think would be as relaxing, though I understand lots of people have chosen to just not worry, which I guess is fine...

At the time I got the car I wasn't sure if I wanted the old "totally obsolete" AP1 or the "probably going to get way better (cough)" AP2; I'm glad I got the obsolete version....

I wonder if there are modern cars with systems comparable to the mobileye system from the original tesla setup.

[rkagerer]

It has only tried to kill me a couple times in 6 years of driving

I understand your pragmatism, but it still boggles my mind how this metric could be considered satisfactory.

[cduzz]

Well, with a car without lane keeping or cruise control, it'll try to kill you pretty quickly if you stop actively controlling the car....

With an AP1 car, you can scan ahead 5-10 seconds (in about 1 second) and pretty quickly assess if the car's going to have a hard time with anything coming up (mostly it is an issue of lane lines vanishing in highway curves or lanes splitting ambiguously).

It is in the happy medium of predictably stupid such that it isn't ever really trusted. Something smarter may lull you into trusting it more, which leads to situations where it can trick you... I imagine there are people who think it's safe enough to scan the road every 1-2 minutes when in a more automated vehicle, and obviously the ultimate goal is "people in car ignore the driving aspect of the trip" -- both of those seem pretty ambitious goals but people are spending gigatons of money to solve these, so maybe it'll be solved?

I've also had animals jump in front of me (just in general, not related to teslas); driving is just dangerous but is a lot more convenient than walking everywhere.

[arijun]

Mobileye still sells to a large fraction of manufacturers (I think a plurality if not majority). You will still get variation in implementation, as Mobileye only does the sensing side, and the integration is done by the OEM.