[mekael]

Societies can already reduce road deaths to nearly zero, it's cheap, it's easy, and it's fun. It's just redirecting all of the cash we spend on vehicles/cars/highways/roadways/signs/etc into public infrastructure that is all encompassing.

A hundred billion dollars a year [0] on construction (reading the definition I'm not 100% sure what is included in this due to how definitions can be hazy) has goes a long way, not to mention the amount we spend on gasoline, car maintenance, etc etc.

The reason I say it's fun, is because I love being on a train. First time I was able to ride one, which due to living in the good old USA wasn't until I was 23, I yelled "I'm on a train" . The Germans traveling with me weren't as into it.

[0] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TLHWYCONS#

[dmitrygr]

Just because you like trains does not mean that it is actually a solution to everyone’s problem. For example, until proper law-enforcement starts happening on public transit, nobody in my family is allowed to take it in USA (they are allowed to do so in Singapore or Japan)

[mekael]

We can take the LEO's that would have patrolled highways/city streets and have them patrol on public transport, same job just slightly different environment.

Can I ask why you feel that public transit is unsafe in the US?

[dmitrygr]

Because each of these perps were not on their first, second, third, fourth, fifth, or sixth violent offense and were freely out to kill:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Debrina_Kawam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Iryna_Zarutska

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nypd-men-pushed-subway-...

Many more such cases occur and aren’t widely reported. I’ve personally witnessed a stabbing on a bus

My chances of being stabbed inside my car are much lower

[naberhausj]

This is the same attitude as people who are afraid of commercial flying despite it being the single safest form of transport. I get it. But it's irrational.

You might not get stabbed, but driving is incredibly dangerous. Even just in terms of violence: road rage is tolerated to a large extent in America. The difference is that the news doesn't report even a small fraction of the traffic deaths in this country. In Iowa, the state I used to live in, around 300 people died every year from driving. I don't know a single one of those people despite their death being a tragedy. Whereas the stories you linked were broadcast coast to coast.

[dmitrygr]

I can control the safety of my car by buying a bigger car, driving certain ways, etc. You are comparing risks you have no control over with risks that you do.

But I am in no way stopping you. Feel free to take USA public transit, and (i truly do not know how) look your family in the eyes and encourage them to do the same. I truly hope that I do not read about your or your family in the news in this light (nobody deserves that), but your chances will be higher than mine.

[naberhausj]

I don't think the statistics would bear out there being any way to make driving safer per passenger mile than public transport.

I get what you're saying. The empirical evidence just doesn't agree AFAIK.