[kinow]

Yeah, I considered applying once, but saw others online saying their process was long and outdated. In my case, I applied anyway, but during the screen call I asked if I would have to use Ubuntu even if I didn't use, and also their new (at that time) Juju for all tasks, even if that wasn't the best tool for the job. The position was related to automation of services. They told me I would to use both Ubuntu and Juju, and I couldn't use other tools if those two worked, which I understand, but I thought being stuck using Juju probably wouldn't help my career after a few years.

[rbanffy]

> They told me I would to use both Ubuntu and Juju, and I couldn't use other tools if those two worked

Dogfooding is a valid strategy to improve their product, but you’d be heavily invested in Juju’s success.

[captn3m0]

Seeing as how Canonical launched several Kubernetes products, this strategy didn’t survive for long.

[rbanffy]

Canonical has a tradition of inventing something that’s ahead of its time only to see nobody else is going the same way as they are. Sometimes they realise it was a mistake and follow everyone else.

Juju had a different problem: it was big-bang rewritten in Go and that froze features for too long for them to keep their mindshare. Rewriting was the right decision, as Python had poor concurrency back then, but doing that while freezing features was a mistake.