[wat10000]

Ever think that maybe it’s not the deportations that are the problem, but the murders and other human rights abuses?

And the fact that there was a lot of fanfare over Snowden rather undermines your point. People did make a big deal about it. It didn’t go anywhere because at the end of the day, the establishment on both sides is in favor of that stuff. It didn’t get any more action after Obama left office.

[lostmsu]

News like "a child dying from a rare form of cancer is deported" only got popular (including on HN) during Trump's latest term.

[wat10000]

Was it “got deported”? Or was it “got deported despite being a citizen,” or “was arrested and held in a prison without necessary medical care”?

[lovich]

Or my favorite “deported despite court order to not do so”

[lostmsu]

The fact that you continue insinuating this demonstrates the point. A lot of people went nuts, sadly. Touched a few of my friends as well.

[wat10000]

You didn’t answer my question.

[lostmsu]

I didn't plan to. It demonstrates pretty well as-is how people stop thinking and acting critically when their biases are being confirmed, and the trend on HN demonstrates how widespread this is. Well, either that, or the lack of critical thinking in the first place.

[wat10000]

That’s your right, obviously. But it’s too bad, because I have no idea if you think it’s a good demonstration because these things didn’t happen, or they did but they also happened under Obama, or they’re new but don’t matter, or what.

[znpy]

I’m pretty sure that if people had tried to obstruct the law in a similar manner there would have been similar death. And unlike today, there was pretty much no bodycam at the time.

Regarding the fanfare… yeah sure big deal… and yet, here we are, with ubiquitous surveillance whose ground work was laid out during the obama administration.

[advael]

Multiple independent and credible sources including documents from within the DHS show a deliberate strategy of terrorizing and harming civilians who have done nothing illegal, and numerous serious and sometimes lethal cases of violence against protestors (protest is in fact supposed to be legal) and just random people, as well as spurious immigration arrests to meet unreasonable quotas, cruel and inhumane conditions in the holding facilities they've rushed to build to support all this, and a general lack of due process and proportionality throughout all of this. You are uncritically repeating state propaganda

[wat10000]

People tend to get outraged at actual events, not hypotheticals. Smartphones were ubiquitous by the end of the Obama administration, cameras aplenty.

[lostmsu]

> People tend to get outraged at actual events, not hypotheticals.

And you think it is reasonable, generally speaking?

[wat10000]

Yes, I think making up stories and then getting upset about them is not generally healthy or wise.