[halJordan]

So we're talking about this woman's contribution. And you're talking about how the system is depriving her of recognition.

Do you see the inherent tension in what you're claiming vs the lived experience of everyone in this post (including you!)?

[mattkrause]

Cmon…We’re saying that a certain style of reference gives her less credit than might be due. Not none at all.

One paper doesn’t make a career (she wrote many dozens), it’s not always cited weirdly, and even if it is, some people may remember the coauthors (as they should).

But since you mention lived experience, I’ll add that I’ve certainly been asked if I’m "even aware" of results from co-authored papers where my name was listed second—-and I don’t think this is very uncommon experience.