[awakeasleep]

When you think of the outlook of the USA, where for example the secretary of health and human services is a crusader against vaccination, do you feel like it’s a country that’s rising to meet the challenges of the future? Because to me it feels like we are in the beginning of a fall of civilization!

I don’t have the perspective to really say I know what’s going on, but I trust the scientist knows her business and her industry well enough to make a call for herself.

Do you have anything specific to show she’s making the wrong decision?

[andsoitis]

> Because to me it feels like we are in the beginning of a fall of civilization!

That's a bit dramatic!

[embedding-shape]

Yeah, probably seeing it from the "inside" sort of makes it seem like "beginning of a fall of civilization" but for the rest of us on the outside it looks like the slow fall of an empire/hegemony. Still dramatic I guess, but not as dramatic I suppose.