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No. That's not what I said, and you're quite clearly being disingenuously hyperbolic.

Let's calm down a bit and bring this back down to earth, shall we?

Suppose you buy your groceries from a company.

Do you have a right to inspect that company's books to evaluate things like their energy use and their water consumption?

Yes? No?

Should you have that right?

[asadotzler]

YES. I should be able to evaluate that, and many supply that. When I buy an iPhone I can see exactly what Apple's recycling and use of recycled materials looks like, for example. Environmental impact doesn't only happen within their walls, it hits us all and they have a responsibility to declare that for anyone to see, not just customers. That you think they should be able to do whatever they want behind closed doors and we all just have to suck it up is one of the reasons I'm glad to be old and not far from escaping this world of children who no longer give a shit about anything except self satisfaction.

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> That you think they should be able to do whatever they want behind closed doors

I haven't stated an opinion here at all, nor have I defended anything. I've merely relayed some observations that I understand to be true, and I've asked some questions.

But I shall now allow myself to be opinionated: You doin' ok over there, bud? You seem to be attacking the choir.