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by bjt 42 days ago
The models that make AI songs were trained on real musicians' copyrighted works, without permission.

It's kinda shitty to steal someone's works, then use them to build a machine to also steal their jobs.
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qingcharles 42 days ago
Is copyright infringement stealing? Is this even copyright infringement? These philosophical questions come up often. I'm not sure I know the answers.
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threepts 42 days ago
Bruno Mars started as an Elvis Presley impersonator (likely without his permission as he was dead at that time), can we say he stole his job?

People take ideas from other people all the time, my view is if machines do it, it isn't much of a different thing.

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avaer 42 days ago
People have been killing people for ages, so nukes for everyone!
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xdennis 42 days ago
AI nutters always use this argument that bots are merely doing what people are doing: "a person learning from 100 books is just the same as an LLM learning from 100 million books".

If you own an apple tree, and (as is common in some countries) a child leans over your fence to grab an apple, you don't lose sleepless nights over it. But if a corporation comes over and leans over with its 10 meter long robotic arm and takes all your apples then it's a disaster.

Scale matters. People don't care for small "losses" because we want other people to prosper. But AI steals from everyone and brings prosperity only to Amodei and Altman.

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threepts 42 days ago
Knowledge is not an apple tree, my machine can read all the 100 million books and those 100 million books still remain there.

You act like it's an zero sum game, it is not.

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