[TrackerFF]

Mogging is vocabulary from the incel-community whcih has unfortunately become mainstream. As with so much other incel garbage (like x-maxxing and x-pilling).

EDIT: Around 16 years ago I was very much into bodybuilding and fitness, and spent a lot of time on the bodybuilding misc forum. Around that time the incel community started to take shape, and you had forums like PUA hate and other dark corners of the internet. These people were also very active on the bodybuilding forums, and would try to steer users over to the incel communities (interesting note: These communities started out as a place where unsuccessful men could vent over having spent money on pick-up artists, without any results).

Those places had a very distinct lingo, which is the very same that you see today with mogging / maxxing / pilling / etc. They even had a glossary.

Were those words older than those communities? Yes, very much so. But they've been completely hi-jacked, and any modern usage comes from those communities.

[amiga386]

Consider the possibility that the general public enjoy neologisms regardless of their source, and will take and adapt them just for fun, without ascribing to the ideologies of the coiners.

Also consider that people are laughing at the cant and its speakers, rather than with them.

If you need evidence of this, try saying this without laughing: "Clavicular was mid jestergooning when a group of Foids came and spiked his Cortisol levels. Is Ignoring the Foids while munting and mogging moids more useful than SMV chadfishing in the club?"

[analog8374]

Let's not be tribal. Even the incels have something valuable to contribute to the conversation.

[rexpop]

"Let's not be tribal. Even Goebbels has something valuable to contribute to the conversation."

That's how naive you sound. Give me a break.

[analog8374]

Godwin has entered the chat with great swiftness.

[rexpop]

How, and why, are we supposed to have a conversation about fascist propaganda without mentioning Nazis?

[uncircle]

Everyone has the freedom of speech, just like everyone else has the freedom to ignore anything they have to say.

[rsynnott]

IIRC the bodybuilding forums' complete insanity long predates the incels (or at least their existence as a named group); SomethingAwful was making fun of them back on the early noughties.

Not sure why, but they always seemed to be terribly vulnerable to nonsense.

[jjice]

> But they've been completely hi-jacked, and any modern usage comes from those communities.

Couldn't you say the same thing about it breaking out into the wider Gen Z vocabulary as well?

[phrotoma]

For completeness, x-maxxing morphed out of "minmaxing" in gaming culture.

https://old.reddit.com/r/rpg_gamers/comments/kew14o/ok_what_...

It was fine before they got hold of it.

[embedding-shape]

> x-maxxing morphed out of "minmaxing" in gaming culture.

Which comes from RPGs, the old school tabletop ones. Then I don't know if the ML/DS term "Minmax" predates the RPGs or if it's the other way around, neither would surprise me.

[nagaiaida]

von neumann's minimax theorem dates back to 1928

[phrotoma]

Er shit, thanks for the correction. That's what I thought I was linking to. I'm not good at reddit.

[deafpolygon]

mog comes from “alpha male of the group” (amog) — so mogging means that as a verb (to dominate as an alpha male)..