[infecto]

I am saying this quite common and part of it is simply an enterprise tax. Yes vercel breaks it up into a separate charge but that’s their playbook and maybe they can better represent their costs and margin internally. I was only pointing out that SSO is almost always hated because enterprises will want/need it.

[infecto]

Edit not sure why I typed hated. I mean always upcharged.

[jiveturkey]

yes, i understood, and i am saying you are wrong.

the enterprise tax also always includes other features (often you don't care about those -- acknowledged and that's why we call it ssotax because "we" only want the sso portion), and is priced per-seat. it's particularly vile when removal of dark patterns is also gated behind the ssotax/enterprise tier. such as advertising to every user.

the vercel offering is a flat price per month and doesn't bring in other stuff you don't care about. it's very well priced and you pay for just the value you want. it's unfair to lump it into the concept of ssotax.

[infecto]

Yes I understood but let me make my position clearer.

Call it unique but it’s because they are marketing it on a consumption model where they can obfuscate the cost of compute. The upcharge for SSO is still very healthy margins hence my point it’s sadly an enterprise markup because all enterprise will have to use it. Sure it’s not gated behind the enterprise bundle but it still has significant markup.

So I am not sure what I am wrong about it’s more opinion than fact. Yes they break apart costs but I am saying said cost still is inflated. But mea culpa, I am wrong!

[jiveturkey]

I guess one could argue that flat pricing is actually quite expensive, and more akin to ssotax than real value. I guess it depends on the median team size that adds this feature.