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by Aurornis 56 days ago
> It's wild to me that 10gbit isn't the norm by now

10G was too big of a step up from 1G. The expense and power required made it unattractive. Only recently have the interfaces for 10G over twisted pair become reasonably low power.

2.5G and even 5G are in a much better spot. It's where I recommend most people start as a default.
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rconti 56 days ago
Yeah, 10GbE-over-copper switches are SO expensive. I bought a Ubiquiti enterprise switch for my home; 10Gb uplink and the copper ports are split between 2.5G and 1G. It's fine because only 1 or 2 clients can even talk 10G, and those are all across the house on Cat5 links anyway so they only negotiate to 2.5 even on a 10G port.

As much as I wanted to "future proof" by having a 24 port 10GbE switch... why? I'll just wait and buy one when I have a use for it.

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Aurornis 56 days ago
> As much as I wanted to "future proof" by having a 24 port 10GbE switch... why? I'll just wait and buy one when I have a use for it.

As much as I enjoy looking at those wiring cabinets where every cable is cut to exactly the right length to reach a single port on the switch, this is why I prefer to leave an amount of slack in the wiring: It's good to be able to pull different wires to different switches depending on your needs.

One small high speed switch with enough ports for the couple of devices that can use it. One gigabit switch with a lot of ports to provide connectivity everywhere else.

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rubiquity 56 days ago
This is what I ended up doing. A 2.5G switch for the few devices that can use it and a 1Gbit+PoE switch for all the other PoE and 1Gbit and less devices.
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lostlogin 55 days ago
The new USM Beast looks interesting.

https://techspecs.ui.com/unifi/cloud-gateways/udm-beast?subc...

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rconti 55 days ago
It does, actually. I dismissed it originally because I don't need most of the capacity, but considering I have no 10GbE copper ports available, and my home is being remodeled and I'm running some new ethernet to the other side of the house, I could take advantage of these ports now.

Also, I didn't realize my UDM Pro was kneecapped at 3-4Gbps IDS/IPS throughput. I think when I bought it I only had a 1 gig internet connection so it was overkill, but now I've got 10gig. It didn't even cross my mind that I had this bottleneck.

EDIT: Nevermind, 1500 american dollars??

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tehlike 56 days ago
expensive but not prohibitively so? https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807859212052.html https://www.servethehome.com/finally-a-cheap-8-port-10gbase-...

You can also get enterprise C3850 with 10G ports for ~100$, but they will be loud and power hungry.

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justincormack 55 days ago
5G barely exists and mostly is the same price as 10Gb. 2.6Gb is taking off and mostly replacing 1Gb, but try to find a 5Gb switch, there really arent any, and most appear to be 10Gb switches with 5Gb PHY in them.
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