[jeppester]

Why though? Why is it unreasonable to expect a company to have some level of responsibility for serving clients that are using their platform for illegal activity?

It the same thing with social media and moderation. We don't have to let them off the hook just because doing the right thing would make them unprofitable.

[rtkwe]

Because the expectation that companies police every single bit that crosses their network is completely unworkable. It's functionally impossible to tell a licensed stream from an unlicensed stream, the distinction isn't available to Cloudflare or any other networking provider it's in private contracts between the copyright owner and the streaming provider and there's a whole snarl of copyright exceptions.

To make the distinction the LaLiga would want they'd have to inspect every single packet, determine if this is a LaLiga game, determine if it's the current game, and determine if it's a licensed provider. There's a reason section 230 was created in the US.

[dminik]

I mean, how do we qualify which companies get punished for which crimes?

Do we punish gun manufacturers for someone being shot? Kitchen utensil companies for someone being stabbed? Car manufacturers for car crashes? Road construction companies for human trafficking?

How deep does this go? Is a steel foundry responsible for the stabbing? Is a camera lens manufacturer responsible for illegal porn?

[jeppester]

That is something we'll need to figure out. Just because it requires some work to figure out where to draw the line, it doesn't make it wrong to draw one.

Banks are generally required to check that their customers are not laundering money. In a lot of countries it's illegal to buy or sell goods that you know are very likely stolen.

It don't think it's outrageous to expect more action from Cloudflare when they must know that their service is used for protecting criminal sites.

Relatedly I'd want the betting companies whose ads are shown on these illegal pages to have some amount of responsibility for where their ads are shown, and the same goes for well-renowned websites that show clearly deceiving ads.

[eggprices]

This law on banks is a bad law. It doesn't stop money laundering, it does make it hard for lots of people to have bank accounts. We should abolish that law, not copy it.