[nurettin]

You can curb an LLM into doing what you want. Unfortunately people don't have the patience or the skill.

[sesm]

People who have skill can do the same without LLMs, maybe slightly slower on average but on more predictable schedule.

[dannyw]

I wouldn’t say slightly slower; LLMs are massively useful for software engineering in the right hands.

For some personal projects I still stick to the basics and write everything by hand though. It’s kinda nice and grounding; and almost feels like a detox.

For any new software engineer, I’m a strong advocate of zero LLM use (except maybe as a stack overflow alternative) for your first few months.

[Bridged7756]

It's significantly slower to use LLMs for some things. The only thing it excels at is generic, broad tasks. Getting the 90% done. I find that it's less cumbersome to get it mostly right and touch it up yourself than to prompt over details like syntax.

[dgellow]

The chat UX with a fake-human lying to you and framing things emotionally really doesn’t help. And it is pretty much not possible to get away from it, or at least I haven’t found yet how.

I would love to see a model trained to behave way more like a tool instead of auto-completing from Reddit language patterns…