[lccerina]

It seems that Zig people are following the path of ZeroMQ [1]: "To enforce collective ownership of the project, which increases economic incentive to Contributors and reduces the risk of hijack by hostile entities."

A healthy contributor community is more important than mere code performance, quantity of features or lines of code, etc..

[1] https://zguide.zeromq.org/docs/chapter6

[frumiousirc]

Unfortunately, those are largely words of a foregone era. The zeromq "community" today is tenuous. It has some really good people in it, the few that remain active, but the human-level processes and communication channels are ill defined and not well "staffed". In some ways, this lack of human activity and interactivity is perhaps okay and even justified given how stable libzmq and most of its bindings are (and the sub-ecosystem around particular bindings are a bit more active). Perhaps Hintjens' grand (and excellent, imo) vision got zeromq to where it is but the project feels to have gone adrift since we lost him. Somewhat ironic to his community-centric vision statement (the guide) it seems a project needs a charismatic and active leader to gain and retain a community. I guess that says more about human nature than it does about software development.

I'm not sure how to tie this all back to the zig story other than to point out the stated premise that zig is not short of PRs and so they can pre-select for no-LLM contributions. I think that is a good move for them and I get the "contributor poker" idea. But, the game changes when the premise breaks and the flow of newbies reduces to a trickle. At that point, if there are still active zig people who still want newbies, they may need to broaden their net. But if/when that happens, it may be too late to recover by opening to LLM-assisted contributions.

[tombert]

You know what; I use ZeroMQ all the time. Thanks for bringing to my attention that the community is waning, I will look into contributing to it tonight.

[frumiousirc]

Great! One thing I do is have an RSS feed from a reddit search query so I can lurk random discussions that mention "zeromq". I'll then see if there is something I can do to encourage or contribute to whatever is happening. There is also a mailing list and a VERY low traffic IRC channel on libera.chat.