[arcxi]

can you share any examples of these "new and better ways to use them"? because the only way I've used LLM and seen other people use it is to literally just talk to it, which doesn't require any skills beyond basic conversational abilities.

[simonw]

I'm taking about coding agents, not chatbots.

With coding agents you need to think very carefully about how you design the agentic loop such that the agent has the right tools and information available to it to compete the goal.

I've been writing a lot more about that here: https://simonwillison.net/guides/agentic-engineering-pattern...