[itopaloglu83]

I think the end-goal is to extract resources and money from taxpayers to wealthy individuals and corporations.

In the end we’re working for creating a form of transportation that could move people from point A to point B. However, everything from land use to infrastructure development costs a lot of money and nobody has any reason to lower their prices either.

I bet a brand new fully sustainable city could be created with that amount of money. But nimby will make it impossible, because (I believe) it’s about resource extraction and not service delivery.

[SilverElfin]

> I think the end-goal is to extract resources and money from taxpayers to wealthy individuals and corporations.

Don’t forget unions. The big large union networks (like SEIU, teachers unions, etc) corrupt politics but also benefit from that corruption.

[itopaloglu83]

Of course, and having to pay certain land owners billions of dollars to build a couple tracts passing through their property doesn’t help either. At least the union members will spend that money within that community and not stash it in Cayman Islands or some other tax shelter.

[mold_aid]

That's right, we're just raking it in! Laughing over here and smoking a stogie thinking about you uncorrupt saps in [checks notes] the Ycombinator forum

[scrubs]

I don't think unions are the primary problem. Maybe cal can use immeninent domain to get land for tracks. $231 billion is a stupid number whatever the goal.