[SlightlyLeftPad]

This product was incredibly ambitious but the real miss was the market fit for what they were targeting.

They still continue to make the highest quality consumer hardware on the market, by far. My macbooks and phones are expected to last (and have lasted) nearly a decade and for that reason alone it’s worth staying in the ecosystem for me.

[bitpush]

> This product was incredibly ambitious but the real miss was the market fit for what they were targeting.

Why is it that Apple gets 'participation' brownie points? When a movie flops, we dont go like 'The project was incredibly ambitious, but the market fit was bad' - We just say that 'it is a bad movie because nobody watched / liked it'.

[spacechild1]

Huh? Just because a movie flops at the box office doesn't necesssarily mean it's bad. There a plenty of examples of movie flops that later became cult classics.

[platevoltage]

True. The Lexus LFA was a flop. It was also a quarter million dollars and an absolute engineering marvel.

[SlightlyLeftPad]

If I remember correctly, Office Space did particularly poorly at the box office but it’s totally a cult classic that I’m sure a good chunk of this community has watched.

[bdangubic]

Shawshank Redemption is much better example of this IMO... Absolute bomb at the BO that ended up being not just a classic but won like a millions Oscars as well