[drxzcl]

I can make an AI system with a survival instinct right now. Of course, all that will do is make people tell me “it’s not a proper survival instinct” or move the goal posts and tell me I need yet some other property.

This whole endeavor is doomed from the beginning. There is no crucial test for “consciousness”, just ad hoc criteria people come up with to land on the conclusions that leave their belief system intact.

Consciousness is not a concept that can be rendered operational.

[Ekaros]

I can make state machine that acts like it has survival instinct. But it certainly isn't something we would consider conscious. So I am not exactly sure how good most tests are.

[drxzcl]

But what would we consider conscious?

My position is that there is no actual, definitive answer to that question, and therefore it makes no sense engaging with the concept.