[raverbashing]

> For a start, child are parents responsibility, and the state should stay out of that as much as reasonably possible.

Yes

That's why stores let kids buy alcohol and tobacco, of course, because no responsible parent would let them buy that, right?

That's why any kid can go watch any movie in the cinema right?

Yes it's the parents responsibilities. Do you think a middle class single mother has the resources to keep their kids entertained and out of social media for the whole day?

The problem with age verification is 100% the lack of anonymity in its implementation (which I do agree has ulterior motives) - but honestly not the age check in itself

[rationalist]

> That's why any kid can go watch any movie in the cinema right?

Yes. At least in the U.S., the federal government does not regulate that, it is voluntary by the MPA (formerly MPAA) and theaters. A kid can buy a ticket for a PG movie and walk into an R-rated movie.

> Do you think a middle class single mother has the resources to keep their kids entertained and out of social media for the whole day?

Mine did. While not everyone has a backyard, things like pencils, papers, books, used toys, etc can be found inexpensively or for free.

[nonethewiser]

So why are there laws that dont let them buy cigarettes and alcohol?

[nandomrumber]

I don’t believe there are, at least not here in Australia.

In Australia, I’m fairly certain it is not an offence for a minor to purchase alcohol or tobacco.

It is an offence to supply alcohol or tobacco to a minor.

[olelele]

Did social media exist when you grew up?

[rationalist]

Xanga and MySpace are what my friends had; yes

[hackable_sand]

It's weird that none of your arguments or proposals hold accountable the responsible parties.

You want to force us to compromise when we were minding our own goddamn business.

[nonethewiser]

Responsible parties like porn companies that distribute porn to minors? Parents are still accountable with age verification laws.

If parents suck at parenting, they will suffer.

If porn companies distribute porn to minors, which is illegal in many places such as the US, they will not suffer. Unless you start holding them accountable.

[EmbarrassedHelp]

Every major adult content site has warnings that you have to be over 18 when you enter the site. Its extremely easy to use parental controls to block these sites for a kid, and parental controls don't require violating user privacy.