[ddosmax556]

This looks cool but the issue github is dealing with is exponential usage. They're trying to 30x their capacity right now - let that sink in! Microsoft here or there, any company would be struggling under this load. And I frankly don't think that any ideology driven alternative will ever be able to provide better uptime under the same load - or any alternative period, for that matter. We're just living in times where everyone is catching up with the capabilities of agents, and it was obvious that things like this will happen 12 months ago. Good luck for your project though!

[hauleth]

I agree that any company would struggle in such case. The thing is that everyone see that GH is pushing for more agents, their Copilot thingy, and AI everywhere, while basic functionality that people relies on is constantly failing.

If you push a lot of new features but your baseline is constantly failing, then something is wrong.

[ddosmax556]

If you're seriously using agents, you'll know that if they didn't offer that then people would rapidly switch platforms if they didn't. Maybe not all of them yet, but soon it will be all.

[Synthetic7346]

Switch platforms to what?

[ddosmax556]

Switch to a git provider that offers agentic augmentation of your workflow. And I don't necessairly mean the way it works right now - it's being refined & adjusted & infrastructure is being built as we speak.

For example, in our company, most commits on main currently have 3-5 authors (we squash): 1-2 humans, 1-3 agents (cursor cloud agent getting started, ppl pulling it into cursor locally to continue, then review using copilot review, modify using copilot agent) then use a vibe coded github app offloading UI test execution to a beefy baremetal machine to adjust baselines.

Copilot review in particular is just so good, better than any agent i know (incl opus 4.7). It just allows you to skip the first few review rounds by humans and fix simple but hard to spot logical bugs, keep docstring & style up to date across the codebase, before you give it to a human - which means everyone can focus on writing more code.

Setting all of this up, at a massive scale, is just not feasible for any of these projects.

[hmokiguess]

You frame the symptom as the problem though. Others seem to be attributing this to Azure migration and Copilot overhead tightly coupled to GitHub infrastructure.

[ddosmax556]

No the problem is that github has to stem exponential usage increase and prepare 30x of their capacity, that's not symptom, that's problem.

[hmokiguess]

It's both and, it's a symptom of exponential usage and a problem with infrastructure. The question you aren't asking is "Why is it a problem with GitHub's infrastructure?" the answer to that lies somewhere in between: Microsoft + Azure + Copilot. Now tell me which of those have anything to do with GitHub as we know it?

[ddosmax556]

Why is it a problem with Githubs infrastructure!? Bcs any website on the planet will struggle when they have to fulfill 30x capacity within 1-2y, no matter which tech stack they're built on, including federated networks. I'm not sure why you're throwikg Copilot in there, you don't like it?

Github as we know it is gone, forever, it will never come back, except for niche hobby clones with .001% capacity that nobody will use. Agents are re-defining what software engineering means, they already have, right now,and are continuikg to do so, it's just that hackernews is lagging 6 months behind for some reason.

[hmokiguess]

I guess you’re right, in part I’m attributing the growth to Copilot and over prioritization of it alongside the AI feature factory galore and that’s where I’m coming from, but thinking again a lot of the acceleration of normal usage comes from AI usage through other vendors ending up in GitHub too.

I don’t know their internals, though clearly they choose to tightly couple every major GitHub system to the AI offering, in my eyes that seems like part of the problem (plus Azure cloud migration on top because Microsoft sounds like a disaster).

Anyways, you sound angry.

[ddosmax556]

Not with you, just a little frustrated with the general vibe and tone in hackernews :) Nad it's not anyone's fault either everyone is just doing their best to follow what's happening. But I think hackernews is currently way off base when it comes to what's really happening, which is kinda sad considering it use to be "the place" to see what's currently going on. The AI revolution is here, anyone that's cussing about claude code max for 100/month getting rate limited doesn't understand it's already with 2k/month, everyone who's upset that github is focussing on copilot doesn't understand that this is the single modt important product they have to jump on asap or geit their lunch eaten by base44, cursor, linear etc.

I like to talk trash about Microsoft as much as anyone, they made insanely bad product descisions in the past (copilot in ms word is one of many) but this is not one of them.