[SXX]

And this is a good for EU. In past decades EU lost energy independence and good part of nuclear because croocked politicians that took dictatorships money while feeding same dictator with oil and gas money.

At the same time EU had no proper army to defend itself because dependance on US or a way to supply said army.

[wewxjfq]

Europe sans Russia does not produce uranium - why people constantly paint this as an independent energy source is beyond me. Of all Russian energy companies, it was Rosatom that could not be sanctioned.

[close04]

> Europe sans Russia does not produce uranium

Kazakhstan is by far the largest uranium producer in the world and has a leg in Europe, west of the Ural river. The important thing is that there are more stable partners worldwide for uranium than Russia is for oil and gas.

There are deposits in Europe, the respective countries decided not to exploit them [0]. This could change depending on external pressures.

[0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211467X2...

[throwawaytea]

Oh great, another country for Russia to take back.

[inigoalonso]

You’re right that European nuclear is not "independent" if that means "mined entirely inside Europe". But the dependency profile is not the same for Russian pipeline gas. Uranium is globally traded, compact, cheap to stockpile relative to the energy it contains, and available from several non-Russian suppliers (Kazakhstan, Canada, Namibia, Australia...). The harder choke points are conversion, enrichment, and reactor-specific fuel fabrication.

Europe does have uranium resources, for instance the Salamanca/Retortillo project, but the constraint is permitting, environmental acceptance, waste handling, and political legitimacy rather than geology. So the honest claim is not "nuclear makes Europe autarkic". It is "nuclear gives Europe a more diversifiable and stockpilable dependency than gas, provided Europe also invests in mining, conversion, enrichment, and fuel fabrication capacity".

[legulere]

Europe managed to get off Russian Gas, but didn’t manage to get off Russian uranium industry. You correctly identified the chokepoints and Russia can’t be replaced fast there.

[benterix]

> Europe managed to get off Russian Gas, but didn’t manage to get off Russian uranium industry.

Only Slovakia and Hungary. They will need to find a way. (Finland planned it but cancelled after Russia invaded Ukraine.)

There is zero chance that new nuclear plants in Europe will use any Russian tech or fuel.

[legulere]

France still gets around a quarter of its uranium from russia and partnerships between Framatome and Rosatom are still going on: https://www.politico.eu/article/france-russian-state-owned-n...

[4gotunameagain]

Conflict with allies is not a good thing for anyone, apart from nationalism.

The dictator now makes more money, so we just lost our cheap gas source, and we buy more expensive oil from others.

[SXX]

Conflict is not good, but wake up call that EU need means to defend itself will help long term. You cant outsource army to defend your borders.