[soiltype]

None. Why would you think that? My guess is you're an American living nowhere near an urban rail system but I thought most people here would at least be passing familiar with modern trains. Even some American cities have them.

[dzhiurgis]

Why the ad hominem?

I've lived and travelled in a ton of places. Trains in low density cities are simply not working well enough. I now prefer to live in exurb and drive everywhere. It's so good.

[soiltype]

Guessing you're American is ad hominem?

[0xffff2]

> ad hominem: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect [0]

Pretty much by definition, yes.

0: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ad%20hominem

[soiltype]

I mean I wasn't making any rhetorical argument. That part of the comment was just me musing.

[dzhiurgis]

Muse this - train is a tool, just like a car, bus, bike, plane, drone or rollerblades.

Repeating "trains" in every transport context is unproductive. Each mode of transport requires certain density. Most US cities just don't have it. It's that simple.

[Schiendelman]

It's not at all that simple. One of the neat things about trains is their permanence - once you've built one, you can fight for allowing increased density repeatedly until you win. That's what we've been doing in Seattle!

[soiltype]

No

[floxy]

>modern trains. Even some American cities have them.

Which American cities have notable modern train systems? Not Portland, or NYC, or Washington DC.

[Schiendelman]

It's hard to say "system", but Seattle's just opened our second line, and we've got a couple in design as well.

[soiltype]

What do you mean by notable?

[floxy]

Only that they are worthy of noting. If there is a modern system, but it happens to suck for some reason, you don't have to mention that one. So feel free to strike that "notable". Which American cities have modern train systems?

[soiltype]

Ok, that's an unusual definition of notable.

[floxy]

notable

adjective

no· ta· ble ˈnō-tə-bəl for sense 2 also

1 a : worthy of note : remarkable

    | a *notable* improvement

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/notable

[soiltype]

I misread that you were retracting "notable" and replacing it. I thought you were adding "it can't suck for any reason" to your definition.