[guywithabike]

By every available measure, Waymo is safer and more equitable than cabs and rideshares. Waymos don't refuse service on skin color or disability. They don't have to stop every block along a fixed route like TriMet. And they're not profitable. So what's your actual beef, here?

I actually live in Portland, and Waymos are going to be a massive improvement over the chronically inattentive, unskilled drivers around here. Waymos aren't glued to their phones at intersections. That, alone, is 70% of all pedestrian crashes caused by human drivers in Portland.

[cvwright]

And you don’t have to worry that some random passenger will piss, puke, or shit in the Waymo during your commute.

The first two happened to me within the span of a month during the three years that I rode Trimet in Portland.

[scottlamb]

> And they're not profitable.

That part should be worrying; will they need to increase prices significantly when they decide to become profitable?

But more broadly, I agree that Waymo is an improvement over taxis or Uber/Lyft. The comparison to public transit is a complicated and local question (I don't live in Portland and have never ridden TriMet), but in general I think there's a place for both.