[aketchum]

there are effectively no passenger trains in America and effectively no political will to expand them. Busses take multiple times as long for the same trip compared to a car. This doesnt even get into the anti-social behavior present on both. Given these facts, it is not wild at all to prefer cars (self driving or not) vs alternate transportation methods

[linkregister]

MARTA (Atlanta regional transit) heavy rail average daily ridership is 80,000 people [1].

1. https://www.apta.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/2025-Q4-Ride...

[mmooss]

> Busses take multiple times as long for the same trip compared to a car.

Buses can be slower, but I don't even know of a 2x difference. For longer trips they can travel 24/7. And overall they are more efficient because you can do other things instead of driving.

> This doesnt even get into the anti-social behavior present on both

I don't have a problem on buses and trains. I have more problem with other drivers when I drive. Your comment is, ironically, antisocial.

[rootusrootus]

> For longer trips they can travel 24/7

That sounds like hell. Bus seats are just as tight as coach class airline seats, and unlike trains there isn't even an option to pay exorbitant pricing for a sleeper compartment.

[mmooss]

I guess everything is hell, if you feel like writing that.

> Bus seats are just as tight as coach class airline seats

IME bus seats are first class in padding and support, a bit wider than coach, and with more leg room (though I'd need to measure to confirm). Much more comfortable than airplane coach - and without the air pressure, vibration / noise, and humidity problems.

> exorbitant pricing for a sleeper compartment

It just depends on the train, how far ahead you pay, etc.

[saalweachter]

Napaway briefly offered ticketed intercity service on busses with 18 sleeper pods, but has (temporarily) discontinued it in favor of focusing on charter service.