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by jordand 44 days ago
I'm running GrapheneOS too and while I've experienced the same, I'm dreading the day any of my banking apps update and suddenly start demanding full Play Integrity API support (GrapheneOS only has Basic) causing them to fail to open. Hasn't happened yet but it could.
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Freak_NL 44 days ago
It always feels like my phone experience is just a pleasant intermezzo. My banking app (ABN Amro) works, government apps (DigiD) work, everything just works, and I get security and a certain degree of distance between me and Google. I can use F-Droid to install useful apps, and incidentally use Google's app store for apps I need because the rest of the world uses them. GrapheneOS rocks.

Borrowed time. I hope not, but that's the prevailing feeling.

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palata 43 days ago
Happened to me. Stopped working on GrapheneOS because of some goddamn check they make, but still runs on an outdated /e/OS signed with the Google test keys (i.e. without a proper secure boot).

The real fight is to prevent companies (like those banks) to do that kind of shit. And to force manufacturers into allowing us to install alternative systems, instead of preventing unlocking/relocking of the bootloader for instance).

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jordand 43 days ago
Yeah, and legislation would be needed here but that's just not going to happen. With the GrapheneOS Motorola partnership (only a Lenovo subsidiary but its something) and hopefully more with other manufacturers, this might turn the tide, but its a long shot.
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palata 43 days ago
> legislation would be needed here but that's just not going to happen

Why not? The EU DMA is going in that kind of direction...

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drnick1 43 days ago
If that happens you could buy a cheap Android like a Moto G for that indispensable banking app and keep using your GrapheneOS device for everything else. Not ideal, but many of us have old devices lying around that can be used for that.
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