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by 2ndorderthought 56 days ago
Why do we assume us providers aren't doing the same? Also all the Chinese providers are giving open weight models. Many you can run locally.

I don't see the risk. If your code is easily AI generated you don't have a moat anyways. A Chinese competitor probably won't have as easy of a time as a US one of you operate in the US
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Laughsalot 56 days ago
The US has robust IP and trademark law that allows companies some amount of chance to find a legal remedy to anyone who clones their business. China is notorious for protecting local companies from foreign IP suits.

Further, at a lot of companies, the risk has to be acceptable to shareholders and auditors. Perceived risk is often a more powerful motivator than actual risk.

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isoprophlex 56 days ago
> robust IP and trademark law

lmao tell that to the artists, authors and foss contributors whose work has been cloned into the llm oracle

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dijit 56 days ago
I don't think that's as true as you think it is.

I mean, "Copyright Infringement" famously does not translate to Mandarin; but we have Amazon ripping off best sellers in their marketplace pretty brazenly and Apple "sherlocking" applications -- that's even where the term comes from.

The models themselves are trained on a corpus of material that was obtained with dubious legality... though I suppose some argument could be made that they're forced to bend the models because of that.

I'd be more wary of these models terms and conditions granting a license to themselves for everything they come into contact with: nobody is reading these licenses it seems. Copilots old one only allowed for "being inspired" by the output, despite they themselves producing an IDE of some kind which allowed you to make complete projects from suggestions: directly breaking their own T&C's.

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2ndorderthought 56 days ago
Once your code, images, etc pass into the slop machine it is owned by whoever generated it later. Obviously they would need a new logo, llc, and some ui theme tweaks. Otherwise none of these AI coder products would exist.

Also, how long do you think openai, Microsoft, Google, anthropic, etc could delay a lawsuit while you pay hundreds of thousands in legal retainers? 5 years? 10?

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