[HaZeust]

Unconvincing. Wait till you see the percentage of modern Christians that disregard and ignore calls and commands for violence present in the bible, compared to believers within the other 2 Abrahamic religions.

Western values separated themselves from several beliefs demanded by the Christianity religions that inspired them. They self-governed and organically evolved beyond several parts of their source material (homosexuality and sodomy, slavery, religious violence, working on the sabbath, forced assimilation, torture and wartime measures, textile production).

Shocking, right? Almost like it's possible...

[za3faran]

> compared to believers within the other 2 Abrahamic religions.

Do you really want me to cite what israel has been doing for the past 75+ years and justified it from their own books? What did milekowsky literally say in one of his recent speeches?

> slavery

Still exists, but it changed forms.

> religious violence

Also still exists, but is a bit more concealed

forced assimilation,

See: europe

> torture and wartime measures

American and israeli war crimes are very well documented, and continue to this day

[HaZeust]

>"Do you really want me to cite what israel has been doing for the past 75+ years and justified it from their own books? What did milekowsky literally say in one of his recent speeches?"

You're clearly well-versed enough in this site's UX/UI to follow comments across a thread, presumably you saw my comment conceding Israel as a problem state now, as well:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47912061

>"American and israeli war crimes are very well documented, and continue to this day"

Yeah, so are those from Islamic States. But American war crimes didn't include sanctioning rape for prisoners of war for its history, and had a lot more regulation and moral reservations for pillage and conquest. A pretty good start - hopefully it evolves from here.

[cholantesh]

Most 'modern' Christians are barely even aware of the content of the Bible, and most adherents of all three religions are not acting on those commands anyway.

>They self-governed and organically evolved beyond several parts of their source material

Ah yes, wars, revolutions, general strikes, all famously acts of self-governance.

[HaZeust]

You sure showed me with this 0-effort response, cadet!

[cholantesh]

Seems appropriate as it's about as much effort as you put into forming your worldview.

[HaZeust]

HN Rule Number 1 (and Life): "Attack ideas, not people".

And it's my worldview needing refinement?

[cholantesh]

If you think your response was an attack on ideas, most definitely, in addition to correcting your juvenile conception of history.

[HaZeust]

I don't know what to say to you beyond calling out your bad faith, then; even if it's unlikely to register.

I wish you luck.