[nottorp]

> every Apple laptop I've ever owned has lasted 10+ years

.. as long as you avoided the emoji keyboard era, or never used an emoji keyboard laptop outdoors or even with your windo open :)

I have laptops much older than the ~2018 that work perfectly. But not only the 2018's keyboard broke, but to add insult to the injury they used a display cable that was too short in that generation and that broke too.

That is Cook's legacy :)

[carlosjobim]

Exactly my experience as well. Macs were great until 2016 and great after 2020. Between that the hardware was worst in class.

[nottorp]

Oh the 2018 should still work with an external monitor and keyboard. I could even get the display cable replaced.

What I can’t do is replace the keyboard with ont that won’t break again in 3 months.