[tt24]

Saying this about a compute rental service is hilarious

They have the power to do what exactly? Sell you some EC2 instances at reasonable prices? lol

There’s organizations that have the power to openly kidnap and execute people and we’re being melodramatic about a few buildings with computers in them

[100ms]

That's not an ideal tone for here. From my perspective the most incredible thing is the concentration of IO. I might like at some point for elements of my computer usage to remain private, it would be nice if that ability were preserved. A bit hard to accomplish when 1 out of 4 bits processed globally all run through the same network

[siliconc0w]

They'll buy your politicians who will give them zero checks on raising energy prices or poisoning your children's minds

[tt24]

Have they been doing this? Evidence?

[killjoywashere]

How's a 170 million pieces of evidence for poisoning children's minds

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2019/09/...

[tt24]

How is this related to poisoning anyone’s mind

Looks like they collected some metrics. I’m fine with this

[chneu]

The trump family is literally in office and accepting bribes from every tech company in existence.

Lol how willfully ignorant can people be?

[tt24]

What does this have to do with my comment exactly?

[sublinear]

Apathy is not evidence of anything, not even ignorance.

[delbronski]

Wasn’t it just a few months ago that a big tech CEO used his powers to gain access to all the US government data he wanted? Did you forget that already?

Did you see any clips from Trumps inauguration? Weren’t the CEOs of these big tech companies sitting right behind him?

Shall we even talk about Palantir?

I think it’s pretty obvious what the power of these companies are. You have to have your head pretty deep in the tech hole to think this is just about fair ec2 pricing. What I’d do to have that kind of ignorance again.

[tt24]

Palantir makes dashboards haha, if anything they’re the least scary one on the list

> Wasn’t it just a few months ago that a big tech CEO used his powers to gain access to all the US government data he wanted

You’re so close! The organization you want to criticize here is the government. Hope that helps :)

[delbronski]

I see. So your brilliant logic is to reduce the actions and impact of multi billion dollar institutions down to simplified versions of the technical solutions they offer.

“You don’t need to worry bout them Palantir boys, they just make simple harmless dashboards. Don’t worry about the deep involvement in government surveillance, military targeting, and immigration enforcement.”

“Amazon just provides simple VMs. Ain’t no need to be concerned about worker treatment, anti-competitive practices, tax avoidance, and environmental impact.”

Is that it?

[tt24]

They treat their workers super well, they pay a shocking amount

Everyone practices tax avoidance, there’s nothing wrong with it. If you don’t like it then adjust the tax code

[fnordpiglet]

When their customers start using those buildings with computers in them to autonomously determine who to kidnap and execute, I suspect you might understand their point. I’d also note we are one refusal away from the US president declaring DPA control over frontier model providers and their infrastructure a national defense necessity and under his personal control.

[tt24]

Then complain about the US president forcing Microsoft to do X rather than just preemptively criticizing Microsoft for doing nothing

[modo_mario]

>There’s organizations that have the power to openly kidnap and execute people and...

Like banana companies?

[tt24]

No, I’m not aware of any banana companies that currently have the power to murder people.