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by SoftTalker 59 days ago
> Many Americans don't even have ID

I don't believe this. "Many" perhaps in raw out-of-context numbers but as a percentage of the population, very few functioning, self-supporting and employed adults in America do not have an ID. It's simply not possible to participate in society without one. You need an ID to register a car, to drive, to vote, to bank, to get a job, to buy a house, to rent an apartment, to get water, power, gas, internet....

If you don't have an ID, you are either a child, or you are deliberately trying to exist off the record. I.e. you are here illegally or you have chosen some very fringe antisocial survivalist offgrid way of living.

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> It's simply not possible to participate in society without one. You need an ID to register a car, to drive, to vote, to bank, to get a job, to buy a house, to rent an apartment, to get water, power, gas, internet....

Around 10% of American adults do not drive.

6% of American adults do not have a bank account (4% for whites and Asians, 11% for Hispanic, and 14% for Black). It is 23% for people with incomes under $25k [1].

About 20% of adult Americans who are not retired do not have a job [1]. Did you forget that some people live with other people and in many of those arrangements only one of them has a job?

Many people have living arrangements where they are not the owner or the renter of record of the place they live. For example many people who live with others as described above.

Approximately 5% of the US economy is cash based and often does not care whether you have any formal ID. Often people who live mostly in the cash economy live in areas with many other such people, which makes it easier.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/02/23percent-of-low-income-amer...

[2] https://www.minneapolisfed.org/article/2022/whos-not-working...