[sweezyjeezy]

I think that the thought trace is definitely incomplete - you can see cases where it is like and "let's calculate the integral:[no integral calculated]". The train of thought it's on towards the end of the trace looks like an entirely different approach than what it ends up returning, so I think we are just not seeing the part where it hits on the right approach (sadly).

[pelorat]

Thought traces are indeed not an accurate representation of what models actually do. If you ask an AI model to add two values it will do so, then in the next prompt ask it to explain the algorithm it used, it will regurgitate that it used some standard textbook method, whilst in reality it used a completely different algorithm. Thinking LLMs don't record the neural pathways they used.

[culi]

Does DeepSeek's solution look more traceable?

https://chat.deepseek.com/share/nyuz0vvy2unfbb97fv