[Toutouxc]

> 800 euros for 8 GB and 512 SSD

For me it’s not about the numbers It’s 800€ for a laptop that’s not total junk. I could probably get the same 8 or 16 and 512 numbers in cheaper laptops, but they would be [what I would consider] sad annoying plastic junk.

[pjmlp]

It is all about the numbers, don't judge a book for the cover.

800 euros plus Apple Care, for 8 GB, 512 SSD, a phone SOC and Tahoe bugs, no thanks.

[Toutouxc]

What I see is 800 EUR for a sturdy body, a solid screen, a solid keyboard and good battery life. That's the baseline for what I want in a laptop. Only after these boxes have been checked, we can start talking numbers. And you know what, even 8 and 256 is still perfectly usable for me. Two years ago I was still using a MacBook Air with 256 GB SSD, happily. Now my wife is using it, happily.

[pjmlp]

What I see is a phone motherboard packaged inside an expensive keyboard and screen, with Apple glitter.