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mrbukkake said it was a very Swedish response and from there it went, the germane topic at hand, and I'm like, yea?

We banned smoking in public in 2005 and have had a special government alcohol store since 1955.

Nationalist is a bad word nowadays but then people cannot deny where people want to live is in the north or western Europe or USA/Canada. Maybe Japan and SK also.

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I live in none of those places. I enjoy a (free) public healthcare system consistently ranked much higher than Sweden's, and smoking has been banned virtually everywhere except for designated areas for several decades. (There is much more public smoking in Europe than here.) Our HDI is equivalent to Sweden's, our household wealth and incomes are significantly higher; lower crime, more nature, much better weather. There are over two millions European migrants living here. Many are economic migrants - nurses and doctors, for example, since our public healthcare system pays better, and offers better work-life balance, than those in Europe.

The thing is, I still don't see how any of that matters. This is a pointless nationalist dick measuring contest that leads nowhere. You're not going to convince anyone of the superiority of Sweden, nor are you likely to be convinced of the superiority of other places, so what is the point of the discussion?