[mepian]

You haven't seen the Lisp subreddit then, there is a post complaining about having to learn Emacs at least once every week or so.

[aidenn0]

I personally suspect that the overwhelming majority of those complaining would find a different reason to not learn lisp if the Emacs barrier were removed, but I very much might be wrong.

[chiffaa]

I wanted to avoid Emacs so I discovered Lem (so now I live in a different Emacs when writing CL), so it's not always this way