[constantius]

You're trying to stir religious hatred through lies, my friend.

Before diving into your link, I'll start by saying that anyone who spends time around Muslims will know they're people like everyone else and not the evil caricatures you're attempting to portray.

Your comment sounds like Muslims the world over want to kill infidels. The link says that Muslims in majority Muslim theocratic countries support Sharia being the law for Muslims. There is a lot less support in secular, majority-Muslim countries.

The survey doesn't cover Western countries, and in the countries closest to the West (Kosovo, Bosnia, Albania), support for Sharia among Muslims is 18%, and the majority of those 18% believe it should only apply to Muslims.

Some Muslims think apostasy deserves capital punishment: this is about Muslims abandoning their faith, not infidels.

Some other headings from your survey:

Extremism widely rejected Few see tensions over religions differences Widespread support for democracy, religious freedom

> than Jewish or Christian followers

Israel is an apartheid state, where ethno-religious supremacy of part of the population is law, where dehumanisation and killing of Palestinians enjoy widespread support 2.5 years into the genocide. A few weeks ago, a law was passed that allows hanging and applies, in practice, only to Palestinians.

Christian theocracies do not exist anymore, or for now, but it'd be fair to say they'll be equally as bad as any other theocracy.

[defrost]

> Christian theocracies do not exist any more

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_See

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monastic_community_of_Mount_At...

These are very mild ... I shudder to think how the US might fare if the Dominionists there grab the reigns as Hegseth and others wish.

Although M.Atwood had a fair crack at that one.

[HaZeust]

>"You're trying to stir religious hatred through lies"

Every thing I've said here is driven by collected data. To note, I conceded in my below-cited comment that active religious hatred towards Middle-Eastern Muslims from Westerners is often a political dogwhistle, due to how distant they are from us in almost every sense:

>>"Indeed, Sharia Law is a dog-whistle in Western nation talks, but that's a luxury on our part. It's a very real belief for a very real cohort of people, however distant they are from enacting action on us today."

But we should know - and recognize - those who identify us as an enemy to their beliefs or advancements, even if they're presently inconsequential. I am not contributing to the active Islamophobia towards Western Muslims with anything I am saying, and let's use caution when prescribing such.

With that in mind, let's quote you more directly:

>"I'll start by saying that anyone who spends time around Muslims will know they're people like everyone else and not the evil caricatures you're attempting to portray."

Yes. Western Muslims are good people, and you'll see points in my comments on this thread directly support that, I was predominantly talking about the beliefs of Middle-Eastern Muslims, which overwhelming hold beliefs that are incompatible with my - and most Westerners - moral framework, even if you can get along with them at a corner market or when asking for directions. I even say this in my first comment:

>>"It is also common knowledge [1] that more-pious followers of Islam - *particularly in Middle Eastern countries* - are considerably more receptive to Islam's more radical teachings and commands on the topic of the treatment towards non-believers"

You also say:

>"The link says that Muslims in majority Muslim theocratic countries support Sharia being the law for Muslims. There is a lot less support in secular, majority-Muslim countries."

No, it supports it being the official law of the land and within the jurisdiction of the respectively-polled nation. It was not a poll to see what standards Muslims desire to hold themselves and fellow Muslims accountable. It is a poll about the percentage of Muslims in various Middle-Eastern countries support Sharia as their nation's official law. Your motivation for skewing the dataset's conclusion? I remain unsure.

>"Some Muslims think apostasy deserves capital punishment: this is about Muslims abandoning their faith, not infidels."

Most*

>"Israel is an apartheid state"

I'll concede Israel is now another one. The original scope of this discussion was a country - and its inhabitants - religious actions and consensus beliefs for the last decades, and Israel has only brazenly shown its hand for the same within the past 5 years, so they weren't on my mind when I wrote my comment. But good point bringing them up

>"Christian theocracies do not exist anymore"

Another commenter called this out well.