[Jensson]

I don't care what Trump says, I look at facts on the ground and fact is that USA never blockaded ships that weren't going to Iranian ports, and the American navy never said they did either. What Trump says in public and what the private orders are obviously very different.

Other countries can see this as well, USA is letting them through and their navy there says they will, they all know Trump spouts a bunch of bullshit so you look at what they do instead of what they say. I haven't seen other countries say USA must stop blockading so they see this as well, they would complain if USA actually blocked any unrelated traffic through the strait but they never did do that.

[brazukadev]

> fact is that USA never blockaded ships that weren't going to Iranian ports

Of course not, there were none.

[ajross]

> I look at facts on the ground

The "facts on the ground" are that the strait is closed to shipping, has been closed, and seems likely to remain closed for the foreseeable future. Yet you think that is somehow not because of the very clearly stated policy of the world's sole superpower which has been pursuing a war in the region?

That's just... batshit. "OK, you said you'd do this. And you did this. And it happened. But you didn't do it!" Literally that's your logic.

Like I said: the ability of the right wing to create for itself a fantasy world that excuses away all the failings of their movement, even to the extent of disbelieving and writing off the actions of their leaders where they don't fit the desired narrative is just amazing.