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by kelseyfrog 47 days ago
That's the option we have now and it's not working. Please suggest and alternative that works.
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Maybe suck less at being a parent? Just throwing it out there. You actually need to do the work.
I'm talking about parents in aggregate. It's not working. Please suggest something that works en mass.
You are the person requesting others comply (on behalf of the aggregate) the onus is on you to provide this solution. The solution that was provided, specifically engaged parenting, is the appropriate response.
Nope, because it will be passed unless you come to the negotiating table in good faith. The truth is that all this resistance mean you don't get a seat at the table, will be left out of discussions and your worst fears will come to pass because you took a hard-line position.

Good luck. People who aren't willing to collaborate don't get what they want.

My god. People like you are the reason we can’t have nice things.
Now that we've gotten the ad homs out of our system, provide a solution.

I'd like the nice thing of a workable solution. The failure to do so means you get the first proposed solution - the one you obviously don't want. It's crazy to believe that despite detesting age verification, none of that vitriol can be redirected in to coming up with a workable better idea.

This is rich. Really setting the terms here huh? So tough and scary on the internet.

It's really adorable.

Maybe we should require a license to have kids if it's not working as it is.
I can't believe a license for kids is less infringing on rights than age verification. Please be serious.
For people without desire to have kids it for sure it infringe less.

Seriously though, I think it is good illustration point of "this is unacceptable speech" i.e outside of Overton window.

Why should anyone have the right to hold such power over another human being?
I think it's the opposite, you need to demonstrate that this law would work
How effective do you find that strategy to be?
1%
No, you misunderstand.

You're reaching for legally mandated solutions. Why can't this be one?

"Choose to be a good parent, vs legally mandated spyware". Why not "legality mandated be a good parent"? This would solve a lot of other problems too. Like, all those people who hand wring "oh we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas! It's not working! Whatever could work in aggregate?!" people who don't actually parent can be trained to parent, and if they refuse they face consequences.

make Facebook do their damn job

they could, they just dont want to spend the money or risk liability